Nature’s Ledger explores how business and conservation can work together for a sustainable and prosperous future. Host Deborah Lehr, Vice Chairman and Executive Director of the Paulson Institute, speaks with inspiring guests to spotlight people, projects, and solutions that prove nature is an asset we can’t afford to lose. Grounded in the belief that valuing nature is key to resilient economies, the podcast shares bold ideas and real-world actions to regenerate the planet. Whales have immense ecological and economic value. They store and move carbon. They feed and fertilize oceans. They influence entire ecosystems. And yet, many species are struggling to survive and thrive. Can decoding the language of whales help us protect them?
To answer this question and more, Deborah Lehr welcomes David Gruber, Founder & President of Project CETI and National Geographic Explorer, to Nature’s Ledger. They discuss his work analyzing whale communication using AI and bioacoustics and how we can better understand non-human intelligence and potentially reshape how law, policy, and society think about the protection of marine life.
They also cover Gruber’s love of nature and how it started and continues as a journey to understand different life forms, the interdisciplinary elements of his work and how he and his team bring together biology, oceanography, and technology, and finally what gives him hope as someone who is studying climate change and whales.
Host
Deborah Lehr
Vice Chairman and Executive Director | Paulson Institute
Episode Guest
David Gruber
Founder & President of Project CETI and National Geographic Explorer | Project CETI