Deborah Lehr
Straight Talk with Hank Paulson
Politics and US-China Relations with Elizabeth Economy & Michael Pillsbury
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Nature’s Ledger explores how business and conservation can work together for a sustainable and prosperous future. Host Deborah Lehr, Vice Chairman and Executive Director of the Paulson Institute, speaks with inspiring guests to spotlight people, projects, and solutions that prove nature is an asset we can’t afford to lose. Grounded in the belief that valuing nature is key to resilient economies, the podcast shares bold ideas and real-world actions to regenerate the planet.
Hank welcomes Elizabeth Economy, Senior Fellow at Stanfordâs Hoover Institution & Senior Fellow for China Studies at CFR, and Michael Pillsbury, Director for Chinese Strategy at Hudson Institute, to Straight Talk. They discuss how US-China ties have evolved in recent years, Xi Jinpingâs ambitions, and where the Sino-American relationship is headed.
Host
Henry M. Paulson Jr.
Founder and Chairman | Paulson Institute
Henry M. Paulson, Jr., is a business leader, conservationist, statesman, and author who is the founder and chairman of the Paulson Institute and executive chairman of TPG Rise Climate. He served as the 74th U.S. Secretary of the Treasury from 2006 to 2009, where he led the response to the...
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Episode Guests
Elizabeth Economy
Senior Fellow and Director of China Studies | Council on Foreign Relations
Elizabeth Economy is the Hargrove Senior Fellow and co-chair of the Program on the US, China, and the World at the Hoover Institution. From 2021 to 2023, she served as the senior advisor for China in the Department of Commerce. Economy was previously at the Council on Foreign Relations, where...
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Michael Pillsbury
Director, Center for Chinese Strategy | Hudson Institute
Michael Paul Pillsbury is an American foreign policy strategist, author, and former public official in the United States. He was appointed in December 2020 to be the chair of the Defense Policy Board at the U.S. Department of Defense.
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